To be or not to be … Tagged

by on February 12, 2010


As most of you know, this Goddess is deliciously social in the Virtual Cocktail Party that is FaceBook. I am also a stickler for Good Manners, common courtesy and a sucker for all things Shakesperean.

With this in mind, I decided to re-post a note I published and add insights gleaned from the animated conversation that ensued.

(The original note is in plain script with the comments in italics)

With sincere apologies to immortal Bard …

The Goddess has been pondering the question of Tagging on FB notes and videos.

Had Hamlet been not only the Prince of Procrastinators but also a Star of Social Media, methinks he may have reworked his famous soliloquy thus ~

“To be or not to be (tagged) – that is the question:”

It’s common practice of almost all newbie social marketers and most of the wannabe crowd, to try to ride the waves of success on the coattails of the Big Dogs -
in other words, to tag the Already Successful in a post or video so as to take advantage of the visibility that their pages provide….

EVEN IF that Big Dog is neither their sponsor nor even mentioned in Said post.

I have to admit I’ve done this too. It’s not only because of a deep desire to get my material in front of as many eyeballs as possible (and after all, isn’t that the whole point of social media?), but also to get that same material in front of the Big Dogs themselves.

To get feedback and – let’s be honest here – to get Noticed!

But looking at it from the Big Dog’s point of view, I got to wondering – how Fair is this really?

Back to Shakespeare …
“Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,…”

“Outrageous fortune” – how utterly delicious is that phrase?
The Big Dogs have ‘Outrageous fortune’. Oh how the rest of us yearn for it.

But do we have the right to commandeer a Big Dog’s hard-earned tribe just because it’s so easy to do so on sites like FB and Twitter?

The first few comments (thank you fellow Goddesses Alethea, Kimberly, Michelle and JoAnn) were in favor of tagging – but within certain parameters: “if your message is to add value with a service mentality, is in line with the ideals and views of the leader in question, and isn’t self promotional or spammy tagging is a great way to get good content to a wider audience.” ~ Jay van Nostrand

Imagine if you will that we’re all at a conference and a Big Dog like say John Fogg, or Richard Bliss Brooke is speaking. Imagine I marched up on stage, unannounced, took the mike and began my own presentation, in effect stealing the Big Dog’s audience and their platform.

Somehow, I don’t think I’d be welcomed – no matter how great my content or attractive my Goddess-ness might be! LOL

So this is where the conversation really heated up! Richard Bliss Brooke (I had tagged him in the note) posted a comment that said that he believed tagging “is presumptuous and trespassing of sorts.” He went on to say: “I don’t see Face Book as a place for people that do not have a following to gain a following or for people that have not accomplished much to all of a sudden be heard.”

But this happens in social media all the time!

So I ask you, why should a Big Dog have to CHOOSE between being ‘nobler’ and ‘to suffer
the slings and arrows’ of random posts and irrelevant tags;

or ….

(back to Shakespeare again – last time, promise)

” to take arms against a sea of troubles
And, by opposing, end them.”

In other words, complain about said excessive tagging, remove the perpetrators, and try to keep their wall or pages a little more selective and a whole lot less cluttered,

or they can stay quiet and watch their own content get swamped by everybody else’ stuff.

I don’t think that’s fair, do you?

At this point the debate suddenly took a more salacious turn. (Before you go running to Dictionary.com – it means Sexy!)

Natalie Lamb and John Fogg both weighed in with the opinion that tagging was sort of like sex – you need to introduce yourself and ask permission first, and any false advertising about the “efficiency of product or program” would be very quickly brought to light!

But at the same time – the name of the game in social media marketing is to get in front of as many people as possible, and tagging is undoubtedly a very successful strategy.

A strategy proven by this post! I tagged every one of the Big Dogs I have befriended on FB, whether I was in close contact with them or not. My post would have been unseen, and the ensuing debate unrealized without it – a fact graciously acknowledged by Sir Richard.

So, to tag or not to tag.

Here the Goddess is still somewhat torn. And I posted this conclusion: “Tag if the person is mentioned in the post, or if you are in direct contact with them. But if you have Any doubt whatsoever about how the tagging will be received – just ASK first.”

And at the end of the day, dear Readers, the Goddess concluded that once again, it all comes down to the gentle Art of Manners – treating others as you would wish to be treated – and the idea that when you offer things of Value, they will invariably be delightedly received.

Bliss and blessings to you all.

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{ 20 comments… read them below or add one }

jean February 13, 2010 at 6:32 am

yes it is hard to know, but if you keep it to the people you know,
and always treat others as you would want to be treated. that’s the key.
great post I really enjoyed it.
.-= jean´s last blog ..“Attraction Marketing” =-.

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Tracey Keefer @ Free MLM Help February 13, 2010 at 10:53 am

Goddess how you summarize the matter well! As all ways it goes back to the Golden Rule and common sense! It was a fun debate that’s for sure!

“Dream, Believe, Become…”
.-= Tracey Keefer @ Free MLM Help´s last blog ..Kermit is right…It isn’t easy being Green! =-.

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Julianna Brower February 15, 2010 at 7:23 am

Yes, it all comes down to treating people how we would want to be treated!
.-= Julianna Brower´s last blog ..Day 7 Social Media Video Bootcamp =-.

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Jacqueline Gates February 15, 2010 at 9:19 am

Yes, Julianna, it does. Old wisdom never dies.

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Young And Fabulous February 16, 2010 at 2:32 pm

I get tagged lots of times and as you can imagine, I get emails everytime people commented on that post. Anyway, I totally agree with you, tag only if those people you’re tagging will find value to it or unless you’re in direct contact with those people that they wouldn’t mind it at all.

Very useful information! Thanks for sharing, Jacqueline!
.-= Young And Fabulous´s last blog ..On Young And Fabulous: You Have A Choice =-.

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Jacqueline Gates February 16, 2010 at 5:24 pm

Goddess Cherrie, while its wonderful to get lots of traffic ~ and Tagging helps with that ~ all those emails can be trying. So I’ve settled on not having all my comments sent through to my email account. That way they’re all just on FB and I can wade through them at my leisure.

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Kimberly Castleberry February 16, 2010 at 3:56 pm

This is such a valuable, insightful post for anyone in the social media world! I’d always wondered just what the “big dogs” really thought about all of what I often considered tag spamming of them. There are so many variables, as definitely is pointed out in their replies that it is hard to make “hard and fast” rules. I think the rule that comes to mind though is … give give give value. When you are sharing genuine authentic value… and not promoting yourself or your biz op… you actually contribute to building a relationship, give value to their followers, attract some to friend you, and remove the risk of being unfriended and reported as a spammer! This is a fantastic read!
.-= Kimberly Castleberry´s last blog ..Hot Facebook Tip: Invite All of Your Friends At One Time =-.

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Eleni Liapakis February 16, 2010 at 11:25 pm

This is so true! It really does get a little under my skin when people are not treating one another with respect. In person and online. It’s so about the Golden Rule and I am with you sister!

Thanks for the amazing content!

Eleni
.-= Eleni Liapakis´s last blog ..Were You Born To Follow? =-.

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Danielle Zack February 16, 2010 at 11:28 pm

This is a wonderful conversation!! One of the lesser discussed etiquettes of social media. I’d have to say that I agree to just ask if you’re unsure. But, if you have had some contact with the ‘Big Dog’ and it’s Really Great content, I think you’re pretty safe. It is important to watch your social media etiquette. Your image is your brand and you don’t want to tarnish it. Thanks for the discussion!
.-= Danielle Zack´s last blog ..Don’t Let Consistency KILL Your Business =-.

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Matthew Miller February 16, 2010 at 11:29 pm

What a great read. Thank you Goddess once again for some awesome content. Now all we have to do it get it out there to all them ‘no manners peeps’ on the facebook. Keep ‘em coming!

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Kary Rogney February 16, 2010 at 11:42 pm

What great writing and sense of humor…
This is what I love about social media,
a debate and having people share their
different views on things that many
people don’t think about or easily over-
look.
A pleasure… and I look forward to being
tagged by you soon!
Kary
.-= Kary Rogney´s last blog ..The Presidents Song By 7 Year Old Abrahm Rogney =-.

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Jacqueline Gates February 17, 2010 at 2:19 pm

And this Goddess is Very pleased to play tag with you too, Sir!

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Liam McCauley February 17, 2010 at 11:50 am

Jacqui,

What an awesome blog you have ! Your writing style in my opinion is amazing….you really are a Goddess !!

Personally, I haven’t used this tactic in my social media networking strategy, as I have always believed that using tags with the ‘Big Dogs’ is a form of spamming, and you can severely dent your brand before you’ve even really begun.

I think use common sense, and I agree with Julianna that you should treat others with how you want to be treated.

Thanks again for the great post.

Liam
.-= Liam McCauley´s last blog ..Growing Your Business Online With Social Networking =-.

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Jacqueline Gates February 17, 2010 at 2:18 pm

Sir Liam, thank you so much for the compliment on my writing ~ much appreciated.
And yes, common sense will get you far – but so will asking the Big Dogs for permission to use their virtual real-estate. Everyone loves to share posts of value, and you, my new friend, have plenty of those!

Bliss and blessings,
The Goddess known as Jacqui

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Cheryl James February 17, 2010 at 3:56 pm

This is a great question. I have been hesitant to tag people because you do not know how they will react. As a rule I don’t tag those untouchable big dogs because that is just plain selfish.

What I have begun doing is only tagging those that have previously responded to one of my videos or notes. And those that have said “Yea, keep it coming!”

Great debate. A lot of it does come down to personal preference. Mr Kary Rogney understands the benefits of it for everyone involved. We all should be forming our own tribes and then cross promote instead of hesitantly tagging others.
.-= Cheryl James´s last blog ..Is a Network Marketing Company Really Necessary as your Primary Opportunity? =-.

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Jacqueline Gates February 17, 2010 at 4:53 pm

Thank you, Cheryl. I appreciate your input, and completely agree that “>Tribes are the way to go!

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eleni liapakis February 23, 2010 at 11:13 pm

Well done Goddess! As my life coach Tony Robbins likes to say “Repitittion is the mother of skill!” and so if that’s what we have to do to get the message out there then so be it! i have already agreed with this message and i will do it again!

thanks Jacqui!
Eleni
.-= eleni liapakis´s last blog ..Here’s the Secret! =-.

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Val Wilcox February 24, 2010 at 4:29 pm

Jaqcqui,
Your posts are a breath of fresh air. I am going to enjoy visiting your site regularly.

Thanks for the insights on tagging.
.-= Val Wilcox´s last blog ..Are You on a Rhinoceros Path in Life? =-.

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John Damstra March 3, 2010 at 2:35 am

I’m guilty of tagging folks in the past too, following some advice and training by a sponsor. In some cases I still think tagging can be tastefully done, but definitely should not be over used. Sometimes the lines get blurred on social etiquette, but for the most part I think most people are well intentioned. Thanks for the post.
.-= John Damstra´s last blog ..Monetize Your Blog – A 5 Step Process Overview =-.

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Beth Hewitt April 2, 2010 at 7:55 am

Hey Jacqueline,

What a great post on tagging etiquette. I dont think I have every tagged any Big Dogs……but maybe I was missing out on a trick or too.

Just so everyone knows, when I become a Big Dog or maybe a Fat Cat I wouldnt mind if I was tagged at all hehe.

Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed the debate.

Beth :-)
.-= Beth Hewitt´s last blog ..What does your mind say about you? =-.

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